Comments on: How Much Can You Rely on What Your Client Tells You? http://myshingle.com/2005/01/articles/client-relations/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/ Great Things Come in Small [Law] Practices! Tue, 15 May 2012 15:19:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Glorfindel of Gondolin http://myshingle.com/2005/01/articles/client-relations/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-163 Glorfindel of Gondolin Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:37:48 +0000 http://174.120.83.8/~sh1ngl3/90/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-163 <strong>Client and patient responsibilities</strong> A post by Carolyn Elefant got me thinking about what kinds of responsibilities clients have to their lawyers. Are these anything like what patients owe to their physicians? Elefant writes about Rompilla v. Beard, an ineffective-assistance-of-counsel ca... Client and patient responsibilities

A post by Carolyn Elefant got me thinking about what kinds of responsibilities clients have to their lawyers. Are these anything like what patients owe to their physicians? Elefant writes about Rompilla v. Beard, an ineffective-assistance-of-counsel ca…

]]> By: Glorfindel of Gondolin http://myshingle.com/2005/01/articles/client-relations/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-5246 Glorfindel of Gondolin Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:37:00 +0000 http://174.120.83.8/~sh1ngl3/90/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-5246 <strong>Client and patient responsibilities</strong> A post by Carolyn Elefant got me thinking about what kinds of responsibilities clients have to their lawyers. Are these anything like what patients owe to their physicians? Elefant writes about Rompilla v. Beard, an ineffective-assistance-of-counsel ca... Client and patient responsibilities

A post by Carolyn Elefant got me thinking about what kinds of responsibilities clients have to their lawyers. Are these anything like what patients owe to their physicians? Elefant writes about Rompilla v. Beard, an ineffective-assistance-of-counsel ca…

]]> By: Legal Blog Watch http://myshingle.com/2005/01/articles/client-relations/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-162 Legal Blog Watch Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:50:34 +0000 http://174.120.83.8/~sh1ngl3/90/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-162 <strong>THE SODIUM PENTATHOL GOES NEXT TO THE COFFEEMAKER</strong> THE SODIUM PENTATHOL GOES NEXT TO THE COFFEEMAKER

]]> By: Legal Blog Watch http://myshingle.com/2005/01/articles/client-relations/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-5245 Legal Blog Watch Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:50:00 +0000 http://174.120.83.8/~sh1ngl3/90/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-5245 <strong>THE SODIUM PENTATHOL GOES NEXT TO THE COFFEEMAKER</strong> THE SODIUM PENTATHOL GOES NEXT TO THE COFFEEMAKER

]]> By: Anonymous http://myshingle.com/2005/01/articles/client-relations/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-161 Anonymous Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:32:05 +0000 http://174.120.83.8/~sh1ngl3/90/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-161 The first thing I was told in law school is that you shouldn't trust everything a client tells you. Even in a capital criminal case. People lie to their lawyers for all kinds of reasons. In fact, I would say that the honest client is the true rarity, based on what I've seen so far in my practice. They've all lied to me to some degree. I read the briefs. In my opinion, try as they might, the prosecutors simply couldn't address the big glaring question: why didn't the public defenders ever bother to obtain their client's school, past conviction, other records? Such documentary evidence would seem pretty fundamental to me, particularly when the prosecutor has told you they plan to use such records to argue aggravating factors. The defenders only seemed to rely on what their client and a few of his family members told him, as well as the opinion of some experts who failed themselves to look at records. I don't see how anyone can defend this breach of professionalism by the defenders. Even the inexperience of the main defender shouldn't excuse it. It's just common sense. Caroline, I love your website, it really fills a much-needed niche. I can't say that I agree often with your opinions. Anyway, keep up the great work. The first thing I was told in law school is that you shouldn’t trust everything a client tells you. Even in a capital criminal case. People lie to their lawyers for all kinds of reasons. In fact, I would say that the honest client is the true rarity, based on what I’ve seen so far in my practice. They’ve all lied to me to some degree.
I read the briefs. In my opinion, try as they might, the prosecutors simply couldn’t address the big glaring question: why didn’t the public defenders ever bother to obtain their client’s school, past conviction, other records? Such documentary evidence would seem pretty fundamental to me, particularly when the prosecutor has told you they plan to use such records to argue aggravating factors. The defenders only seemed to rely on what their client and a few of his family members told him, as well as the opinion of some experts who failed themselves to look at records.
I don’t see how anyone can defend this breach of professionalism by the defenders. Even the inexperience of the main defender shouldn’t excuse it. It’s just common sense.
Caroline, I love your website, it really fills a much-needed niche. I can’t say that I agree often with your opinions. Anyway, keep up the great work.

]]> By: Anonymous http://myshingle.com/2005/01/articles/client-relations/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-5244 Anonymous Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:32:00 +0000 http://174.120.83.8/~sh1ngl3/90/how-much-can-you-rely-on-what-your-client-tells-you/#comment-5244 The first thing I was told in law school is that you shouldn't trust everything a client tells you. Even in a capital criminal case. People lie to their lawyers for all kinds of reasons. In fact, I would say that the honest client is the true rarity, based on what I've seen so far in my practice. They've all lied to me to some degree. I read the briefs. In my opinion, try as they might, the prosecutors simply couldn't address the big glaring question: why didn't the public defenders ever bother to obtain their client's school, past conviction, other records? Such documentary evidence would seem pretty fundamental to me, particularly when the prosecutor has told you they plan to use such records to argue aggravating factors. The defenders only seemed to rely on what their client and a few of his family members told him, as well as the opinion of some experts who failed themselves to look at records. I don't see how anyone can defend this breach of professionalism by the defenders. Even the inexperience of the main defender shouldn't excuse it. It's just common sense. Caroline, I love your website, it really fills a much-needed niche. I can't say that I agree often with your opinions. Anyway, keep up the great work. The first thing I was told in law school is that you shouldn’t trust everything a client tells you. Even in a capital criminal case. People lie to their lawyers for all kinds of reasons. In fact, I would say that the honest client is the true rarity, based on what I’ve seen so far in my practice. They’ve all lied to me to some degree.
I read the briefs. In my opinion, try as they might, the prosecutors simply couldn’t address the big glaring question: why didn’t the public defenders ever bother to obtain their client’s school, past conviction, other records? Such documentary evidence would seem pretty fundamental to me, particularly when the prosecutor has told you they plan to use such records to argue aggravating factors. The defenders only seemed to rely on what their client and a few of his family members told him, as well as the opinion of some experts who failed themselves to look at records.
I don’t see how anyone can defend this breach of professionalism by the defenders. Even the inexperience of the main defender shouldn’t excuse it. It’s just common sense.
Caroline, I love your website, it really fills a much-needed niche. I can’t say that I agree often with your opinions. Anyway, keep up the great work.

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