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	<title>Comments on: Real Life Marketing Lesson:  Are You Charging Clients Like American Airlines?</title>
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		<title>By: David Fuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree wholeheartedly.  It seems that fees create a lot of nervousness for both practitioners and clients.  The flat fee eliminates a lot of those issues.  My question, however, is if you are practicing in a jurisdiction or practice area that requires you to break out fees - i.e. client pays the filing fee in bankruptcy - how best to communicate that although the fee is broken out between services and cost of litigation, it is nonetheless a flat fee and they aren&#039;t being nickeled and dimed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly.  It seems that fees create a lot of nervousness for both practitioners and clients.  The flat fee eliminates a lot of those issues.  My question, however, is if you are practicing in a jurisdiction or practice area that requires you to break out fees &#8211; i.e. client pays the filing fee in bankruptcy &#8211; how best to communicate that although the fee is broken out between services and cost of litigation, it is nonetheless a flat fee and they aren&#8217;t being nickeled and dimed.</p>
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		<title>By: David Fuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree wholeheartedly.  It seems that fees create a lot of nervousness for both practitioners and clients.  The flat fee eliminates a lot of those issues.  My question, however, is if you are practicing in a jurisdiction or practice area that requires you to break out fees - i.e. client pays the filing fee in bankruptcy - how best to communicate that although the fee is broken out between services and cost of litigation, it is nonetheless a flat fee and they aren&#039;t being nickeled and dimed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly.  It seems that fees create a lot of nervousness for both practitioners and clients.  The flat fee eliminates a lot of those issues.  My question, however, is if you are practicing in a jurisdiction or practice area that requires you to break out fees &#8211; i.e. client pays the filing fee in bankruptcy &#8211; how best to communicate that although the fee is broken out between services and cost of litigation, it is nonetheless a flat fee and they aren&#8217;t being nickeled and dimed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Britton</title>
		<link>http://myshingle.com/2008/05/articles/client-service/real-life-marketing-lesson-are-you-charging-clients-like-american-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-2985</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolyn - This is a clever post.  Having a long history with the airlines, I just shook my head when I heard this.  But, I really had to chuckle when I read your post.  I JUST received a bill yesterday where a service provider added a 10% service fee.  I had never seen this before, so I asked them what it was.  They said it was for faxing, fedex, etc.  Considering that we do almost everything by email, I couldn&#039;t help but feel abused.  For all the private practice lawyers out there, take it from a client (and soon American Airlines):  Don&#039;t try to look inexpensive and then nickel and dime.  Pick your price and give the best service you can for that price.  Your clients will love you for it.  My 2 cents.
Mark Britton
CEO, Avvo
www.avvo.com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn &#8211; This is a clever post.  Having a long history with the airlines, I just shook my head when I heard this.  But, I really had to chuckle when I read your post.  I JUST received a bill yesterday where a service provider added a 10% service fee.  I had never seen this before, so I asked them what it was.  They said it was for faxing, fedex, etc.  Considering that we do almost everything by email, I couldn&#8217;t help but feel abused.  For all the private practice lawyers out there, take it from a client (and soon American Airlines):  Don&#8217;t try to look inexpensive and then nickel and dime.  Pick your price and give the best service you can for that price.  Your clients will love you for it.  My 2 cents.<br />
Mark Britton<br />
CEO, Avvo<br />
<a href="http://www.avvo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.avvo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Britton</title>
		<link>http://myshingle.com/2008/05/articles/client-service/real-life-marketing-lesson-are-you-charging-clients-like-american-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-7382</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolyn - This is a clever post.  Having a long history with the airlines, I just shook my head when I heard this.  But, I really had to chuckle when I read your post.  I JUST received a bill yesterday where a service provider added a 10% service fee.  I had never seen this before, so I asked them what it was.  They said it was for faxing, fedex, etc.  Considering that we do almost everything by email, I couldn&#039;t help but feel abused.  For all the private practice lawyers out there, take it from a client (and soon American Airlines):  Don&#039;t try to look inexpensive and then nickel and dime.  Pick your price and give the best service you can for that price.  Your clients will love you for it.  My 2 cents.
Mark Britton
CEO, Avvo
www.avvo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn &#8211; This is a clever post.  Having a long history with the airlines, I just shook my head when I heard this.  But, I really had to chuckle when I read your post.  I JUST received a bill yesterday where a service provider added a 10% service fee.  I had never seen this before, so I asked them what it was.  They said it was for faxing, fedex, etc.  Considering that we do almost everything by email, I couldn&#8217;t help but feel abused.  For all the private practice lawyers out there, take it from a client (and soon American Airlines):  Don&#8217;t try to look inexpensive and then nickel and dime.  Pick your price and give the best service you can for that price.  Your clients will love you for it.  My 2 cents.<br />
Mark Britton<br />
CEO, Avvo<br />
<a href="http://www.avvo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.avvo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Poll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Poll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 09:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, could one consider this policy an &quot;unbundling&quot; of sorts? The airline has agreed to fly you and one carry-on bag; did it agree to also fly your entire closet of clothes? If they are charging for flying baggage, they are not charging others who can fly &quot;lighter&quot; and thus consume less resources ....
Just a thought to consider, before we lump them into the &quot;nickel and dime&quot; category. Just because it&#039;s different doesn&#039;t make it wrong.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, could one consider this policy an &#8220;unbundling&#8221; of sorts? The airline has agreed to fly you and one carry-on bag; did it agree to also fly your entire closet of clothes? If they are charging for flying baggage, they are not charging others who can fly &#8220;lighter&#8221; and thus consume less resources &#8230;.<br />
Just a thought to consider, before we lump them into the &#8220;nickel and dime&#8221; category. Just because it&#8217;s different doesn&#8217;t make it wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Poll</title>
		<link>http://myshingle.com/2008/05/articles/client-service/real-life-marketing-lesson-are-you-charging-clients-like-american-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-7381</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Poll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 09:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, could one consider this policy an &quot;unbundling&quot; of sorts? The airline has agreed to fly you and one carry-on bag; did it agree to also fly your entire closet of clothes? If they are charging for flying baggage, they are not charging others who can fly &quot;lighter&quot; and thus consume less resources ....
Just a thought to consider, before we lump them into the &quot;nickel and dime&quot; category. Just because it&#039;s different doesn&#039;t make it wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, could one consider this policy an &#8220;unbundling&#8221; of sorts? The airline has agreed to fly you and one carry-on bag; did it agree to also fly your entire closet of clothes? If they are charging for flying baggage, they are not charging others who can fly &#8220;lighter&#8221; and thus consume less resources &#8230;.<br />
Just a thought to consider, before we lump them into the &#8220;nickel and dime&#8221; category. Just because it&#8217;s different doesn&#8217;t make it wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Cartier Liebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 22:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolyn,
When I practiced I NEVER nickel and dimed clients.  But I would make it a habit of indicating I did work on the bill with a large N/C (no charge) next to it.
First, it made them aware I did not nickel and dime them (because I did not want them to be afraid to contact me w/information I may have forgot to ask or simply something they remembered) and:
Second, it gave them significant pause before they questioned the bill (which only happened once...and fees had to be argued in court and the court found my charges more than reasonable).
I never failed to profit...I just eliminated headaches, did not give the impression of squeezing the client and it positively impacted the attorney/client relationship.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn,<br />
When I practiced I NEVER nickel and dimed clients.  But I would make it a habit of indicating I did work on the bill with a large N/C (no charge) next to it.<br />
First, it made them aware I did not nickel and dime them (because I did not want them to be afraid to contact me w/information I may have forgot to ask or simply something they remembered) and:<br />
Second, it gave them significant pause before they questioned the bill (which only happened once&#8230;and fees had to be argued in court and the court found my charges more than reasonable).<br />
I never failed to profit&#8230;I just eliminated headaches, did not give the impression of squeezing the client and it positively impacted the attorney/client relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
		<link>http://myshingle.com/2008/05/articles/client-service/real-life-marketing-lesson-are-you-charging-clients-like-american-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-7380</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Cartier Liebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolyn,
When I practiced I NEVER nickel and dimed clients.  But I would make it a habit of indicating I did work on the bill with a large N/C (no charge) next to it.
First, it made them aware I did not nickel and dime them (because I did not want them to be afraid to contact me w/information I may have forgot to ask or simply something they remembered) and:
Second, it gave them significant pause before they questioned the bill (which only happened once...and fees had to be argued in court and the court found my charges more than reasonable).
I never failed to profit...I just eliminated headaches, did not give the impression of squeezing the client and it positively impacted the attorney/client relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn,<br />
When I practiced I NEVER nickel and dimed clients.  But I would make it a habit of indicating I did work on the bill with a large N/C (no charge) next to it.<br />
First, it made them aware I did not nickel and dime them (because I did not want them to be afraid to contact me w/information I may have forgot to ask or simply something they remembered) and:<br />
Second, it gave them significant pause before they questioned the bill (which only happened once&#8230;and fees had to be argued in court and the court found my charges more than reasonable).<br />
I never failed to profit&#8230;I just eliminated headaches, did not give the impression of squeezing the client and it positively impacted the attorney/client relationship.</p>
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